Archive for April 2007
i found the comment on groupthink below interesting. in general i agree, a conclusion independently reached by numerous people is much stronger than a conclusion reached by persuasion. but how often does that really happen? and in human society, it is not really encouraged. most people share and discuss ideas, invariably influencing the other party. in a evolutionary sense, this is probably a big part of mankind’s development. but is it still serving its purpose or is this tendency too easily taken advantage of by mass media?
you may have seen the news item of the collapsed freeway near the bay bridge. it is big news here. obviously everyone was talking about the enormous impact on people’s commute and how long it would take to fix. but i was wondering if the company would be held liable for the damage. i had heard anecdotally that if you crash into a guardrail or something, you get billed for the damage. i thought the same could apply here, but of course instead of a few hundred dollars, this is a few million. i found this article today: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/30/BAGSNPIHMQ3.DTL. Towards the end, they mention that if the driver was found negligent, the company would be held liable. i agree with this finding. i am assuming the driver will be found negligent, i can’t see how a professional crashing a truck in perfect conditions with no mechanical failures would be anything but.
as a side effect of the freeway collapse, all public commuting options were free today. caltrain dutifully turned off ticket machines and posted signs on them saying caltrain free today. of course, they forgot it was the end of the month and everyone needed to by a monthly pass for april. so they were smart in putting up the signs but stupid for forgetting about monthly commuting tickets. they “pulled a columbia” as i like to say now.
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yesterday i went to berkeley to play tennis with a friend. i took bart over there, but since i never go to the east bay i had no idea where i was after exiting the station. i asked someone for directions and luckily the person was headed in my direction. she was somewhat chatty so we had one of those small talk conversations that we engineers try so hard to avoid. apparently she was about to start law school at UC berkeley. she asked me where i was from (since i didn’t know where i was going) so i said the peninsula. i asked her where she was from and she said columbia. so i said, “like missouri?”. and she said “No, like south america.”.
so i went from feeling pretty smart to knowing there was a columbia in missouri to feeling pretty stupid about forgetting the one in south america. to be fair, her accent was very slight so i think she must have lived in the US for awhile.
concerning Nina’s chocolate comment below, yes i do love chocolate and am against loosening requirements. europe is very stringent about this. if you buy parmagiano reggiano from italy, it must meet strict geographical and quality requirements. same with prosciutto di parma or most any regional european product. the US usually is much more lax, which results in all of us squinting at labels at the grocery store trying to read the 4pt font ingredient list. there are a few controlled products, the one i know about is salmon from alaska. if you buy alaskan salmon you can be sure it is wild and the salmon stock is well managed.
concerning the post below, i was trying to get more into how we should weigh group opinions vs. our own. many people will say forget what everyone else thinks, just do your own thing. for music and things this is probably ok, but for most other areas you are usually throwing away a lot of built up knowledge by doing that. there are a lot of recent efforts to mine this data more efficiently. the motley fool CAPS program is one example. there was also some ill-fated program where the govt was trying to get people to wager on when the next terrorist attack was going to happen or something. forgot the complete details. i remember reading the article on cnn thinking how absurd the headline sounded, but often times group think is more powerful than you would imagine.
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hemant | April 24, 2007 at 9:56 pm
Li | April 25, 2007 at 3:38 pm
yes, like going invading Iraq and waving flags b/c its patriotic chastising ppl who are anti-war as unpatriotic – total herd-mentality not herd-wisdom.
Nate | May 1, 2007 at 3:30 pm
Way to shoehorn Iraq into the discussion! Are you sure you’re not under the influence of herd mentality?
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I have been listening to this song lately. Is this a good song or mass marketed crap? I usually can’t tell the difference. And should I care?
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Nate | April 17, 2007 at 8:03 pm
It’s The Killers. Of course it’s mass marketed. That doesn’t mean it’s crap though. Don’t fall for that old “people have heard of it so it must be crap” formulation.
Nina | April 18, 2007 at 8:22 am
Kireet, do you like chocolate? I can’t remember if you do or not, but you should write a commentary about this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003666267_chocolate14.html
http://dontmesswithourchocolate.guittard.com/
How does “Vegetable-oil and milk protein faux chocolate” sound to you? blech.
Big business is trying to screw with one of the simple, affordable pleasures of life. If the FDA approves, this will no longer be true:
I don’t think vegetable oil will have the same effect…
Nate | April 18, 2007 at 3:32 pm
My answer is c) You shouldn’t care.
bu Kireet Reddy (jose) | April 23, 2007 at 3:36 pm
should i care? now, if i tell you to care, would you care? and so it goes on..
nate provides an element to aid your decision making.. you can make the decision or we can make it for you (including whether you should care) if you objectively list out all the things about a song that you think make it click. it is a different matter that the former exercise would trivialize our decision-making exercise for you. so in summary, you do the exercise and figure it out!
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the trip to kansas was cancelled today due to difficulties at the processing plant. apparently we are still going to go at some point later. no pictures of the luxury box, i forgot the camera. but in the end, it was just a room. don’t get me wrong, it was a great way to watch a game, but you can just imagine moving your living room to a stadium and watching a live game in it. the food was basically unlimited stadium type food. a good time, but i don’t think i would ever shell out the money. if you go to a game to watch the game, it is superfluous. if you want to go to socialize it might be for you. i guess the best thing about it was a totally unobstructed view of the rink. you are up a few feet from the uncivilized masses so you get a complete view.
my cousin sriram forwarded me an email about this tailor, the “needle king” who was coming to san francisco for a few days to do fittings for tailored clothing. i thought what the heck, my suit doesn’t fit so i went in. he seemed to have a lot of happy customers and his prices were good. anyways, the guy was super busy, i had a 3pm appointment and didn’t leave til 4:15. the suit should arrive in a couple months. the guy operates out of thailand so who knows who actually makes the suit. for $250 for a suit and dress shirt, i am guessing most people don’t ask too many questions.
also yesterday i saw a woman biking in the city wearing a surgical mask. it was a little surreal. i hope for her sake she is a severe asthmatic.
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Nate | April 11, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I used to assume that the occasional people I saw in surgical masks were just hypochondriacs, but then I saw a story on the news the other day about a guy somewhere in the U.S. (I forget which state) who’s in prison because he has a particularly virulent strain of TB and refuses to wear a mask for the protection of others.
Nina | April 12, 2007 at 9:41 am
Your place of birth (Huntsville) made the Top 5 Worse Pollen Count Cities today (as of 4/12/07 @ 9:37am)
http://www.pollen.com/Pollen.com.asp
On another note, I think you need to update your “About” profile. Add family pictures! You don’t work on anymore, this being “oracle” stuff. Backdated event pictures are also acceptable under the “Trips” section, e.g. your sister’s wedding!
I am SO disappointed that there is no hockey suite pictures! I think you owe it to loyal KireetReddy.com readers to provide more pictures! And yes, I have entitlement issues. ^_^
Was the lady wearing a surgical mask Japanese? Japanese people in Japan wear surgical masks if they have a cold b/c they don’t want to spread it to other people. If not Japanese, maybe she just didn’t want to breathe in any bugs as she was biking? Do you ever breathe in bugs when you bike? Kind of like the splattered bug on the car windshield thing.
Nina | April 12, 2007 at 9:46 am
I wrote “” w/o the spaces between the words “on” and “anymore” in the 2nd paragraph and your blog site removed it! Did it think it was an XML tag? Weird.
nhi | April 15, 2007 at 11:27 pm
Kireet was a victim of thermal downshock today!
Nina | April 16, 2007 at 10:38 am
What is thermal downshock?
Nina | April 16, 2007 at 1:59 pm
You know what? I just had a thought. You probably shouldn’t post where you live (address and all) b/c what if you go out of town and then some internet weirdo sees your “Gone Fishing” message and decides to break into your apt? That would be bad.
I saw a news report about something like that. It was people who are getting married and they register and create wedding websites and even though they may not post their home address, there are enough personal details on the website such that a thief can find out where a person lives. So after the wedding usually comes the honeymoon, therefore, thieves know when to strike a house usually full of gifts from the couple’s registry. Plus, since they can see what’s been bought, they know of specific items they can steal, e.g. Vera Wang crystal glasses, etc.
Anyhoo, just a thought. Like I said, might want to revisit your “About” page, this time for security reasons.
Am I paranoid or what?
nhi! | April 16, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Yesterday, Kireet was holding a glass of ice water and it exploded in his hand! Luckily, there were no injuries. The glass seemed to have shattered completely in two pieces.
Thermal shock happens due to sudden temperature changes. The hot glass was exposed to ice cubes , causing parts of the glass the expand by different amounts. At some point, when the stress overcomes the strength of the material, cracks form–causing the structure to fail or “explode”. Hence, exploding glass. I supposed I should’ve said Kireet was a victim of Exploding Glass!
Btw, Kireet thinks we are hijacking his blog for our own devious purposes. But this is a public service announcement! If he deletes this message, you’ll have known what happened to me …
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One of our vendors at work is treating our engineering team to a NHL game (san jose sharks) in their luxury suite. score! i don’t really like hockey and the game is all the way in san jose but i have heard so much about luxury suites i said i would go. As it is likely that I and most kireetreddy.com readers — no offense – will never see the inside of a luxury suite again, I will try to take some pictures and post them (obviously a couple pics of the food spread for nhi).
biking to work went ok today. No real issues, turns out i can cut down my apt to caltrain walk from 9 minutes to about a 3-4 minute bike ride. I can bike from caltrain to work in about best case muni time so that seems to work nicely also.
sometimes public transportation is weird though. today this guy got a nose bleed and started bleeding all over himself. instead of going to the bathroom, he stands in the aisle and pulls out a wad of napkins from his pocket (at least he was prepared, probably a former boy scout) and starts stuffing them up his nose. Still his hands had quite a lot of blood on them. finally he goes off somewhere and cleans himself up. then he comes up with his nose still (more neatly) plugged with napkins. and we have to sit on the same seats with these people. that reminds of this guy at work who just splashed his hands with water after using the bathroom. then instead of getting a paper towel at least, he dried his hands on his hair! that’s like peeing into a perfume bottle and then misting your hair with it. that was sick. i think i have been dating nhi too long.
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nhi! | April 2, 2007 at 11:06 pm
on one of my rides on caltrain, an elderly gentleman in a suit sitting behind and across the aisle from me was clipping his nails (not sure if they were toe or finger) … when did public space become an extension of people’s homes??
speaking of dating me too long, i like to think that i “saved” you from a life of wallowing in a bastion of germs and disease.
Li | April 3, 2007 at 5:43 am
Oh, was that Kireet that made the original posting? I got confused and thought it was Nhi who wrote the posting.
Nina | April 3, 2007 at 11:26 am
You are overdue for new pictures. I kept holding out for Scottsboro ‘06 but, alas, it never materialized. Looking forward to Japan ‘07 now…
I suppose food pics will count. Try to get a picture with at least your head in it for proof that you were actually in the luxury suite and not just peering through the door, zooming in on the food spread.
Sri | April 4, 2007 at 10:37 am
who pees on their hands?
ky | April 5, 2007 at 1:35 pm
at least he washed his hands. there are people out there who still don’t after using the facilities. i’ve seen them. gross. it just reaffirms why i am so anal about using a paper towel to open bathroom doors.
speaking about weird people on buses……
people fall asleep on the buses all the time. i remember this one time, i was sitting on a very crowded bus – people standing in the aisle the entire length of the bus. one girl sitting in an aisle seat fell asleep and started to lean on the guy standing in the aisle. he looked a bit perturbed – really funny to watch actually – and kind of “bumped” her off him. i tried not to laugh out loud at the girl.
oh, wait. that girl was li.
Nate | April 7, 2007 at 12:57 pm
Is hockey really hockey without the roar of the unwashed masses yelling and throwing beer at each other?
Sriram Reddy | April 18, 2007 at 11:12 pm
So i just got back from watching the giants game in a luxury box. Let me say that it was totally worth it. Watching baseball directly behind homeplate with a full accompanient of good food and alcohol made it even better.
Is it just me or does everything taste, smell, and feel better when it is free?
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Tomorrow is my first day of biking to/from the caltrain. I am a little worried the bike cars on the express trains are going to fill up and I’ll be stuck on the local. I’ll let everyone know how it goes. Hopefully I can regularly take the express so I can get home in time to work out before dinner. I have only been working out a couple times a week since I got the new job and this saturday at ultimate frisbee it really showed. I was really straggling towards the end.
Also, I watched erin brockovich on tv this weekend (exciting life i know). Am I the only one who was rooting for her to lose for about 1/2 the movie? Her character was so annoying, I would have fired her 10 times over.
Also, it’s pretty lame to make a blog posting that just links another blog, but I thought this one was quite funny:
http://waiterrant.net/wordpress2/?p=435
also, i’ve been having some issues with spammers lately, so if your comment doesn’t show up or you are a new commenter, please email me and let me know there is a problem.
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Li | April 2, 2007 at 6:55 pm
I don’t understand – you’re biking to/from the Caltrain and hope to get home early enough to workout? Um, doesn’t biking count or do you have tassles on your handlebars?
Nhi said you two went for a bike ride yesterday. Charles and I will have to come down for a weekend and go biking with you two, but don’t worry, we haven’t been on our bikes since last May so the only butts that will get kicked will be ours.
nhi! | April 2, 2007 at 11:02 pm
also, kireet will have to bike on el camino, notorious for bad traffic and drivers. also, kireet now has become one of those bike commuting elitists wearing a flashing reflective pant leg protector strap. also, kireet uses “also” too much.
Li | April 3, 2007 at 5:38 am
Ah, thanks for the clarification. I biked to work a few times, and I agree, that you do have to haul quite a bit with you. Although Charles had it easier than me given that he’s a guy, and I had more girlstuff to cart around. I guess that’s the curse of being a girl.

powerful, as long as you are careful to differentiate between herd-wisdom and group-wisdom. The idea is that the mean of a lot of *independent* opinions can be very useful. However, when a lot of people are reacting to each other’s opinions, you just get the most ‘popular’ one dominating. And, as socially inept engineers are taught early in life, popular does not mean smart.